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 Post subject: Scan tool [Cheap?] advice for MY03
PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:00 pm 
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I've googled and searched this forum for hours without success, so I apologise if the question has been answered before and I missed it.

I live about 90km from Subaru service so would like to be able to verify CEL problems before hiking over to the service centre. But I have become confused as to what I need to buy to scan error codes for my Forester XS MY03 (built in July '02). I know later models are OBD2 compliant and that mine is not. It doesn't have the black connectors to join to see the codes flashed on the CEL either, only the green test connectors and what looks like a SCART plug near the steering column.

So what sort of cable/software/protocol do I need to definitely access all the error codes? I've wanted to do this for a while but as luck would have it - or not the CEL came on steady yesterday. :(


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 Post subject: Re: Scan tool [Cheap?] advice for MY03
PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:23 am 
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Your vehicle is OBD2 compliant. That is the OBD2 port below the steering wheel.

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 Post subject: Re: Scan tool [Cheap?] advice for MY03
PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:32 am 
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JAK50N wrote:
Your vehicle is OBD2 compliant. That is the OBD2 port below the steering wheel.


Thanks for the response. Does that mean I could use any error code reader? Or do only particular one's work with the MY03? That's the problem. I know some people report scanners not identifying more than a few common codes on different models at different times, but don't know just whichone's will work on the MY03 model. Good to know that itis OBD2 compliant though. But what about the "SSM" protocol? [I don't really even know what that is]


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 Post subject: Re: Scan tool [Cheap?] advice for MY03
PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:04 am 
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If you suspect your car is pre OBD2 you can try FreeSSM
Have a read about it and SSM here: http://www.subaruoutback.org/forums/65- ... m-tcu.html

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 Post subject: Re: Scan tool [Cheap?] advice for MY03
PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:03 am 
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gac wrote:
JAK50N wrote:
Your vehicle is OBD2 compliant. That is the OBD2 port below the steering wheel.


Thanks for the response. Does that mean I could use any error code reader? Or do only particular one's work with the MY03? That's the problem. I know some people report scanners not identifying more than a few common codes on different models at different times, but don't know just whichone's will work on the MY03 model. Good to know that itis OBD2 compliant though. But what about the "SSM" protocol? [I don't really even know what that is]


I use a Scangauge in mine.

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 Post subject: Re: Scan tool [Cheap?] advice for MY03
PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:41 am 
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JAK50N wrote:
JAK50N wrote:
Your vehicle is OBD2 compliant. That is the OBD2 port below the steering wheel.

I use a Scangauge in mine.


Many thanks, but probably a bit out of my price league I'm afraid. For my simple use such as discovering why CEL is activated, rather than tuning or on road monitoring, it would probably be cheaper to have it scanned at the dealer a few times to match the scanguage cost. Pity Supercheap Auto doesn't offer their $14 scan in our area - it would be just what I need and a price I can afford.

carsubie wrote:
If you suspect your car is pre OBD2 you can try FreeSSM
Have a read about it and SSM here: http://www.subaruoutback.org/forums/65- ... m-tcu.html


I found that link to FreeSSM really interesting. Cables are cheap it seems [and a bit iffy], but I think I might give it a go.


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 Post subject: Re: Scan tool [Cheap?] advice for MY03
PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:26 am 
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gac wrote:
JAK50N wrote:
JAK50N wrote:
Your vehicle is OBD2 compliant. That is the OBD2 port below the steering wheel.

I use a Scangauge in mine.


Many thanks, but probably a bit out of my price league I'm afraid. For my simple use such as discovering why CEL is activated, rather than tuning or on road monitoring, it would probably be cheaper to have it scanned at the dealer a few times to match the scanguage cost. Pity Supercheap Auto doesn't offer their $14 scan in our area - it would be just what I need and a price I can afford.

carsubie wrote:
If you suspect your car is pre OBD2 you can try FreeSSM
Have a read about it and SSM here: http://www.subaruoutback.org/forums/65- ... m-tcu.html


I found that link to FreeSSM really interesting. Cables are cheap it seems [and a bit iffy], but I think I might give it a go.


Dont know what your subaru dealer will charge for a diagnosis. But the local subaru dealer here charges 150 to plug in the scantool. Do that a few times and at that price it certainly would NOT be cheaper.

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 Post subject: Re: Scan tool [Cheap?] advice for MY03
PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:46 am 
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gac wrote:
I found that link to FreeSSM really interesting. Cables are cheap it seems [and a bit iffy], but I think I might give it a go.


I have the K+Can cable from ebay with the FTDI chipset. It works well with FreeSSM. I have the same ECU as you (Unisia JECS) and it can communicate with the ECU and the TCU in an auto


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 Post subject: Re: Scan tool [Cheap?] advice for MY03
PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:49 pm 
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Or just invest in a Tactrix


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 Post subject: Re: Scan tool [Cheap?] advice for MY03
PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:19 pm 
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Vehicle: MY03 XS - White

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InsaneAsylum wrote:
I have the K+Can cable from ebay with the FTDI chipset. It works well with FreeSSM. I have the same ECU as you (Unisia JECS) and it can communicate with the ECU and the TCU in an auto


eswae wrote:
Or just invest in a Tactrix


Thanks for these suggestions. I'll look them up.


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